Victorinus VIRTVS AVG ?

Que pensez vous de la légende de ce revers avec la Vertu ?

SAVO[...]VS AVG

Elle est mystérieuse cette légende

Monnaie sur frappée ?

Je peux facilement imaginer le V le I et le R, mais le S ???

On dirait une double frappe avec une rotation de 180°
La partie de légende a gauche serait "S AVG" et a droite "VS AVG"

Listed this one on another forum and there was also an example listed. Could be the one you showed but need to check.

Found it; same pice you showed:

This is Tejas [Dirk] specimen, and I think you resolved the mystery Olivier. Good job Sherlock.

Indeed same conclusion back then:

“ von curtislclay » Mi 24.08.16 21:06

Rs. wohl VIRTVS AVG um 180 Grad auf demselben Typ überprägt.

Vom ersten Schlag bleibt nur noch das Ende der Legende, S AVG.

Am leichtesten erklärbar, wenn es sich um zwei verschiedene, abwechselnd angewendete Rs.Stempel handelte.”

https://medg.forumactif.org/t687-victorinus-inedit

Ici des monnaies similaires.

Cela me fait penser aux monnaies à la légende fautes PVAX

Ah so also posted here already in what looks like my first post on this forum

For me two different “mistakes”; the PVAX is a die cutters “mistake” and these two VIRTVS coins are minting mistake.


With regards to the PVAX coins there are as far as I know 2 different views on this type:

1)      Die cutters mistake

2)      “Street” Latin: writing after pronunciation.  Like PIAETAS (instead of PIETAS) and ERCVLI (instead of HERCVLI). Interesting is that all known PVAX examples are from the early issuing phase and thus the theory is that the quality control increased and the “street” latin wasn’t “allowed” anymore.

Looking at the spacing of the letters and after reading the “street”latin theories again I’ll go with this explanation.

P.s. source for “street” Latin (in German Vulgarlatein) theorie is:

-          R. Schlosser, Romische munzen als Quelle fur das Vulgarlatein
-          Bachofen Munzschatz Page 62
-          Marcus R. Weder, Anmerkungen zum AGK 8bX

Merci pour ces précisions.
Et je salue cette belle érudition.

as I have a some examples in the collection I did a couple of years ago a small “study” on this type.