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grigioviola Antoninien
Messages : 121 Date d'inscription : 06/06/2017
| Sujet: An interesting POSTVMVS PIETAS AVG Jeu 31 Mar - 19:26 | |
| Hello dear friends! Some days ago I have purchased this coin: IMP C POSTVMVS PF AVG [PIET]AS AVG 17/19 mm; 3,03 What do you think about it? I think it's a very good style local issue with a Gallienus reverse... | |
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Ocatarinetabellatchitchix Antoninien
Messages : 328 Date d'inscription : 24/08/2021 Age : 52 Localisation : Montreal Québec Canada
| Sujet: Re: An interesting POSTVMVS PIETAS AVG Ven 1 Avr - 23:22 | |
| Très intéressante et intrigante pièce… À première vue pas « barbare » du tout. Ce genre d’exemplaire me porte à me poser cette question: les coins étaient ils toujours détruits après un changement d’Empereur ou parfois « empruntés » pour usage dans des ateliers clandestins? | |
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grigioviola Antoninien
Messages : 121 Date d'inscription : 06/06/2017
| Sujet: Re: An interesting POSTVMVS PIETAS AVG Lun 4 Avr - 10:38 | |
| the coin looks as a local issue if you see with attention. the obverse style is not official even if of a very high style. I've checked in many sources but no official obverse of Postumus seems to be from the same die. But It's a suggestive type! | |
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Gascogne sesterce
Messages : 652 Date d'inscription : 15/12/2013
| Sujet: Re: An interesting POSTVMVS PIETAS AVG Ven 8 Avr - 18:57 | |
| Superbe monnaie locale inspirée d'une émission de Gallien a Milan (en 264-265) C'est l'AGK N157a (R5) , l'exemplaire connu vient du trésors de Tattershall | |
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grigioviola Antoninien
Messages : 121 Date d'inscription : 06/06/2017
| Sujet: Re: An interesting POSTVMVS PIETAS AVG Sam 9 Avr - 15:42 | |
| Many thanks Gascogne! Have you a pic of the piece from AGK? I find a picture of a similar type in colleconline: but my specimen is from different die and my reverse ant has not the mint mark "P" on left field. I have not idea if AGK has or not the mintmark letter. Doyen listed two type for Gallienus with no mintmark the 702 and 703 (the one with continuous legend PIETAS AVG, the second with borken legend PIE-TAS-AVG), here the pics: | |
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Gascogne sesterce
Messages : 652 Date d'inscription : 15/12/2013
| Sujet: Re: An interesting POSTVMVS PIETAS AVG Sam 9 Avr - 16:18 | |
| - grigioviola a écrit:
- Many thanks Gascogne!
Have you a pic of the piece from AGK?
I have not idea if AGK has or not the mintmark letter. Malheureusement non il n'y a pas la photo dans l'AGK, peut-être en cherchant des infos sur le trésors L'AGK ne stipule pas la marque d'officine, ce qui n'est pas anormal vu qu'il s'agit d'une monnaie locale qui n'était pas pour tromper, le but n'était pas de faire une copie exacte mais reprendre un type connu par la population dans la région je suppose, a noter que Victorinus aussi a eu droit a ce type là repris en monnaie locale | |
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grigioviola Antoninien
Messages : 121 Date d'inscription : 06/06/2017
| Sujet: Re: An interesting POSTVMVS PIETAS AVG Sam 9 Avr - 16:30 | |
| Thanks! I think that all this coin came from the same local officina. The style of the two pictures is very similar. There is also an AGK number for thi reverse reprised by Victorinus? I hope to find on the net a specimen with a Victorinus obverse.. | |
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Gascogne sesterce
Messages : 652 Date d'inscription : 15/12/2013
| Sujet: Re: An interesting POSTVMVS PIETAS AVG Sam 9 Avr - 16:35 | |
| Pour le Victorinus c'est le N157b (R5), il provient du tresors de Lectoure (a 20Km de chez moi je vais chercher dans le jardin si j'en trouve pas un autre lol)
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grigioviola Antoninien
Messages : 121 Date d'inscription : 06/06/2017
| Sujet: Re: An interesting POSTVMVS PIETAS AVG Sam 9 Avr - 16:52 | |
| I hope you will find a whole hoard!!! many thanks again! | |
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grigioviola Antoninien
Messages : 121 Date d'inscription : 06/06/2017
| Sujet: Re: An interesting POSTVMVS PIETAS AVG Sam 9 Avr - 17:32 | |
| et about this Gallien from Guercheville hoard?!? the reverse seems to be from the same die! | |
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Agrippa Antoninien
Messages : 222 Date d'inscription : 21/03/2017
| Sujet: Re: An interesting POSTVMVS PIETAS AVG Dim 10 Avr - 17:25 | |
| Nice coin, just checked the Tattershall hoard report (CHRB IV) and the one in AGK is without P in left field: | |
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Agrippa Antoninien
Messages : 222 Date d'inscription : 21/03/2017
| Sujet: Re: An interesting POSTVMVS PIETAS AVG Dim 10 Avr - 17:32 | |
| Your example indeed seems to be a die match with the Gallienus piece. Interesting… Does somebody know if the Guercheville hoard is published? | |
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Ocatarinetabellatchitchix Antoninien
Messages : 328 Date d'inscription : 24/08/2021 Age : 52 Localisation : Montreal Québec Canada
| Sujet: Re: An interesting POSTVMVS PIETAS AVG Dim 10 Avr - 20:15 | |
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grigioviola Antoninien
Messages : 121 Date d'inscription : 06/06/2017
| Sujet: Re: An interesting POSTVMVS PIETAS AVG Dim 10 Avr - 20:21 | |
| At the moment Guercheville hoard is not yet published. I asked for the report but CGB hasn't it. I'm searching in my archives if there's is some die link with an Aureolus ant... In my opinion the author of these coins was a sculptor of the Milan mint or had one or more dies from this mint, but all these pieces are unofficial issues. | |
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Agrippa Antoninien
Messages : 222 Date d'inscription : 21/03/2017
| Sujet: Re: An interesting POSTVMVS PIETAS AVG Dim 10 Avr - 21:03 | |
| Don’t see the Milan style for me a local imitation you see in UK an French hoards. Will check my local imitations if I have something that comes close. | |
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Agrippa Antoninien
Messages : 222 Date d'inscription : 21/03/2017
| Sujet: Re: An interesting POSTVMVS PIETAS AVG Mar 12 Avr - 0:10 | |
| Hard but here some examples from a small hoard: Style comes close. | |
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